topleft
topright

NOW AVAILABLE!
In paperback
- and with a new introduction

aa paperback medium.jpg 

"Flagrantly Islamophobic"
THE CANADIAN
ISLAMIC CONGRESS

America Alone: The End Of The World As We Know It
The paperback edition of Mark's international bestseller is now in bookstores, but you can order your personally autographed copy exclusively from
The Steyn Store


Exclusively from
The Steyn Store
Image

 The perfect gift for
beleaguered northern conservatives
The Canadian
Agenda Bender

The roadmap to
Rescuing Canada's Right,
with an introductory essay by Mark, plus one of our stylish
Scary Conservative T-shirts
- together in

one great package

 

Coming soon to a Canadian "courtroom" near you!

AA_cover_bestseller.jpg 

"Flagrantly Islamophobic"
THE CANADIAN
ISLAMIC CONGRESS

"There is proper conduct that everyone has to follow"
TERRY DOWNEY
THE ONTARIO FEDERATION
OF LABOUR

America Alone: The End Of The World As We Know It
Order your personally autographed copy while you still can!
Exclusively from
The Steyn Store


sol viva steyn image master.jpg

 Now available in three groovy colors
The Viva Steyn!
T-shirt
 

 

sol viva steyn image master.jpg

 Our exclusive Viva Steyn! T-shirt is now available in three groovy colors. Who says only the left can have radical chic?
Before the lights go out on liberty in Canada, Britain and elsewhere, promote some truly revolutionary ideas in...
The Viva Steyn!
T-shirt
 

 
The Professor responds Print E-mail
Saturday, 15 November 2008

Professor John Miller has responded to my "open letter" (see below) as follows:

With all due respect, Mr. Steyn, I did not accuse you of making up a quote. You clearly accepted someone else’s word for it. But that’s not journalism. Few journalists I know would take Oriana Fallaci’s word about Islam at face value the way you did, for reasons I will explain.
You uncritically accepted her reference to the “Blue Book,” and went on to have fun with the notion of Mohammed Atta interfering with the livestock instead of suicide bombing. But there is no Blue Book, it’s The Little Green Book. And it wasn’t written by the Ayatollah at all, as you say, but by a source who was apparently at least three times, and three languages, removed.
Moreover, it’s a collection of quotes purportedly from him, but without any documentation, as someone who posted on your blog (Sept. 22, 2006) pointed out to you.
So which Blue Book is it you are offering to mail to me? Which verified quote does it contain?
I’m not going to engage in any scatological references to your credibility seeping away, as you did about me. I’m just saying that no one has verified that the Ayatollah ever said: “A man who has had sexual relations with an animal, such as a sheep, may not eat its meat. He would commit sin.”

First let’s deal with Fallaci. When the New York Times wrote her obituary on Sept. 15, 2006, the headline called her a “writer-provocateur.” Sound familiar? Remind us of anyone we know?

The obit said this:
“In three books beginning with “The Rage and the Pride” (Rizzoli: 2002) and many interviews (after 9-11), she attacked not only Islamic extremists but Islam itself, as well as a West that she said had become too complaisant and tolerant to realistically understand the threat.
“Saying that the “sons of Allah breed like rats,” she strongly condemned the growing immigration of Muslims in Europe, including her native Italy. “Europe is no longer Europe, it is ‘Eurabia,’ a colony of Islam, where the Islamic invasion does not proceed only in a physical sense, but also in a mental and cultural sense,” she told the Wall Street Journal in 2005.”

Hmmm. This is definitely starting to ring bells, isn’t it?

Fallaci, unlike you, was charged in Switzerland and Italy for violating laws against vilifying religion, and many regarded her as a racist in her later years.

So discount Oriana Fallaci as an unimpeachable source.

Journalists usually try to deal with primary sources (Writer-provocateurs seldom do). However, one of your blog puppets, who claims to have once been a journalist, says she has found what you couldn’t.

Deborah Gayapong (http://deborahgyapong.blogspot.com/) writes:
“Well, I decided to get on Google myself. And guess what, I found an English translation of the whole bleepin' book. Within five minutes I found this: “The meat of horses, mules, or donkeys is not recommended. It is strictly forbidden if the animal was sodomized while alive by a man. In that case, the animal must be taken outside the city and sold.”

She also quotes: “If one commits an act of sodomy with a cow, a ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrements become impure, and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed as quickly as possible and burned, and the price of it paid to its owner by him who sodomized it.”

Hmmm. Not exactly what the Steyn-Fallaci quote from the Blue or Green Book says, but perhaps close enough in the right-wing blogosphere. Clearly, something is lost in translation here, and any skeptical journalist would give these variations of an undocumented quote the skip.

The helpful Deborah refers us to a site called Prophet of Doom, which, if anyone is interested, is at http://prophetofdoom.net/. There’s this description of its author: “This version of The Little Green Book is a translation done by Harold Salemson, whose source was a French translation of the Ayatollah’s fatawah compiled by a Persian named Jean-Marie Xaviere.”

If you want to hang your hat on that as a reliable source, go right ahead but you’re travelling alone, Mr. Steyn.

Oh yes, and what does the Prophet of Doom website say about Islam? “Islam is a caustic blend of regurgitated paganism and twisted Bible stories. Muhammad, its lone prophet, conceived his religion solely to satiate his lust for power, sex, and money. He was a terrorist.”

A reactionary, right-wing blog? I rest my case.

Professor Miller seems to be overcomplicating this. I didn't "hang my hat" on any website. That's his argument: He's the one who thinks the veracity of a quotation is determined by who cites it on the Internet. The book was published in Iran before the Internet was invented, so Prof Miller's argument is a bit like complaining that a wax cylinder from 1904 isn't available on CD. That may be so, but it doesn't mean the wax cylinder doesn't exist

I've offered to send him the book by the Ayatollah Khomeini in which the original statement appeared in the original language. If he doesn't like Oriana Fallaci's translation, he's welcome (as a renowned Islamic scholar) to offer his own. All he has to do is give me his mailing address. All the rest is blowing smoke.

(Deborah Gyapong has more here). 

 
< Prev   Next >

READER OF
THE DAY

"The charisma of moral indignation such as that exhibited by Mark Steyn has no staying power"

GARY H JOHNSON, JR
United Against Islamic Supremacism
January 2nd 2009

FREE SPEECH FOR CANADIANS!

Sign the petition to
repeal Section 13

AND CLICK HERE
FOR ALL THE NEWS

"Mark Steyn may be
the world's wittiest obit writer"

THE WASHINGTON POST

 


From Ronald Reagan to the Reverend Canaan Banana, Ray Charles to the Princess of Wales, here's Mark's take on the famous and infamous personalities who shaped our world
Mark Steyn's Passing Parade

Order your autographed copy exclusively from
The Steyn Store

 

© 2009 SteynOnline

Joomla Template by Joomlashack
Joomla Templates by JoomlaShack Joomla Templates