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A selection of some of the many letters we have received on Mark's articles Caving In – from A to Z and Mission Impossible
CALLING CAPITOL HILL
Grabbing the privileges doled out to illegals is something I have advocated for a long time. Over the last two to three years, I have made hundreds of phone calls to Capitol Hill to criticize various aspects of federal non-enforcement of immigration law. Only twice did I get a rise out of the staffer on the other end of the line - both times when I suggested that Americans find their own methods of avoiding paying taxes. After all, if foreigners and their business allies here are allowed, even encouraged, to follow that plan, why can't real, live citizens, to whom the money actually belongs in the first place, just say "No" to the IRS? One staffer actually told me that, if I persisted in such comments, she would be required to report my support of "lawlessness" to the proper authority. Maybe we could get all the illegals to call that gal.
Rich Brady
HERE’S THEIR PHONE NUMBER
If you’ve been calling the GOP senators to execrate the Kyl-Kennedy immigration proposal, you may have found that many Senators offices are either busy all the time or not picking up the phone.
Here is the number of the National Republican Senatorial Committee: 202-675-6000. They are still answering the phone and you can hit all of those bastards with one call!
Tell them you will not support the reelection of any Senator in 2008 who votes for the bill.
Keep Fighting!
p.s. You can leave a message for the Republican National Committee (RNC) at 202-863-8500.
Thresher
I’M OFF TO PARAGUAY
Get on TV. Repeat that thought everywhere you go. It's a brilliant point. As a 44 year citizen or this country I'm planning to renounce my status, become a Paraguanan, and apply for the Z Visa so I can pay my taxes every 2 out of 3 years. I'll use the extra income to hire more Mexicans to do landscaping. My next project is a statue of "W" with huddled masses of illegals reaching for him like Moses in The Ten Commandments.
David Fletcher
Atlanta
ALL AMERICANS SHOULD APPLY
Brilliant!.....all Americans applying for a Z visa..you're a stinking genius! Lolol. As usual you nailed it on the head, continue to lob your verbal mortar rounds on the entrenched, aka John McCain.
Joseph GriswoldI BLAME THE BUSINESSES
Excellent points and suggestion for all "documented" workers to file Z visas - However, I have heard/seen absolutely nothing on the real culprit of the immigration problem: American businesses that knowingly, willingly, hire illegals. Where's the penalty to these companies? It seems like they should be following the way of Dunkin' Donuts and adopt a zero-tolerance policy for illegals - The plan should give companies X-number of months to justify the workers with
work visas and send the rest back to their country of origin to apply for citizenship "legally".
Kathleen Craig
Milan, Michigan
AMNESTY FOR ALL!
Finally a deal that will intrigue the American public: amnesty for illegals AND for actual US Citizens!
No back taxes for all! The end of the IRS! All tax issues prior to June 1, 2007 are gone!
Now, that is finally a "Reform" bill I could get behind.
Robert Arnold
Sonoma, California
GO HOME YOU STUPID LIMEY
"America is not Europe, which is being transformed by a fast-growing Muslim population profoundly alienated from the broader society. Nonetheless, fast-moving demographic shifts are always a huge challenge. Last year, National Review's John Derbyshire noted the enrollment statistics for his school district on suburban Long Island, 1,400 miles from the southern
border:
High school: 17 percent Hispanic
Intermediate: 28 percent Hispanic
Elementary: 31 percent Hispanic "
What a JOKE, YOU ARE AN IMMIGRANT for petes sake!
If YOU have such a problem with Hispanics...why don't YOU just GO BACK TO ENGLAND?
Just think, virtually ZERO Hispanics back in merry ole England!
Otherwise, TOUGH SHIT!
These types of writings by YOU are the reason I CANNOT take you seriously whenever I come across your screeds on Muslims...
If you lie, misrepresent and outright spew hate against us, why should I believe you when you spew invective against Muslims?
In short, GO HOME YOU STUPID LIMEY IMMIGRANT!
Americas Hispanic population will only rise! Don't like limey?
TOUGH SHIT!
F*** YOU!
GO BACK BACK TO ENGLAND WHERE YOU BELONG!
And STOP calling this the "New World"! NATIVE Americans lived here 30,000 years BEFORE European ILLEGAL ALIENS began flooding in....
The ONLY thing new are you European ILLEGAL ALIENS !!
Columbus = FIRST illegal alien!
“Temoc310”
WORKING FOR PEANUTS
If you really believe that people who harvest leaf lettuce, collard greens and peaches are liable to pick our nation's pocket after being charged $5,000 for the privilege of working for peanuts, I think I need to find a way to vote against what you believe.
Doug Barber
Crisfield, Maryland
THAT’LL BE THE DAY
Hi Mark. I'll sign on to the "visa by the next day" policy when the IRS starts giving me my tax refund the day after I file.
Gregory Milligan
THE JAW ON THE FLOOR
As someone who waited months for a K1 visa having no guarantee of when it might come up in the queue and then went through the same process waiting two years for a green card interview I'm also trying to pick my jaw up from the floor after reading this. We would have been happy with ANY kind of limit on how long they had to process the application, let alone 24 hours.
Jack Ely
BE VERY AFRAID
”For the agency that takes the best part of a decade to process nanny applications and which sent Mohammed Atta his visa six months after he'd died, this is, to say the least, a massive cultural change.”
BINGO! In the states where you can get a shall-issue concealed weapons permit, the law generally allows 45-90 days for the state to perform its checks. Now the Federal government has one day to do ALL the checks to become a citizen. Be afraid, very afraid.
Tom Glaab
Charleston,South Carolina
NOTE TO AL-QAEDA
Note to al-Qaeda cells in the U.S.: Everybody apply for your z-visas at the same office on the same day.
God help us
Samuel McKee
CAN CANADIANS APPLY?
Perhaps you could have a 'Dummy's guide to Z1 immigration'. Could I drive down to Great Falls, Mt for a couple days and get some Z1,2,3 papers for myself and family?
I do not hold much hope for Canada in the long run. But increasingly, the US appears bound for self-destruction too. What a pity.
Edward de Koning
Calgary, Alberta
CAN’T AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS ONE
I am one of your biggest fans. I have both of your recent books and eagerly look forward to Mondays (or Sundays, in this case) when I can ready your weekend columns.
I have to respectfully disagree with you on the issue of immigration. I have been extremely disappointed to see the Republican party go "nativist" on this issue in the last two years. Ronald Reagan would be ashamed.
I live in Miami, where my kids go to schools that are 95 percent Hispanic. Those schools were 95 percent Anglo as recently as 30 years ago. I go to a church where the members are at least half Hispanic. And that's the church that is conducted in English. We meet in the same building as the Spanish-language group, and of course they are all Hispanic.
Miami has its problems but relatively few of them have to do with immigration. In fact, as immigration has increased Miami has improved significantly from the bad old days of the 1980s ("Miami Vice," "Scarface."). The crime rate is down considerably. Yes, I understand that much of the stereotype of Miami in the 1980s was earned, and most of the problem was immigration-related. But the fact that things have gotten better should be celebrated and a sign that the United States is still assimilating its immigrants nicely.
Miami is a classic example of the melting pot that makes the United States more vibrant and exciting than other Western countries. Small businesses are booming, unemployment is way down (interesting that unemployment is low in the states with the most immigration, isn't it?).
Sclerotic Europe does not allow assimilation -- that is part of the problem for them.
The immigration compromise has its bad points, but overall there is no legislative solution that is political palatable today. This agreement is about the best we can expect, and it does solve some problems.
I would suggest reading the WSJ perspective on this over the weekend. There is at least one conservative publication that has not gone down the road toward Pat Buchanan nativism.
It is amazing to me to see normally intelligent logical people up in arms about "amnesty." How the heck do you propose to get rid of 12 million illegals without legislation that either A)destroys businesses and causes the cost of goods to skyrocket or B)forces illegals even further into the shadows? You have to address these people and give them a reasonable path toward legalization. It is the only realistic solution.
Keep up the good work. I agree with you on just about every other issue and consider you one of the most brilliant commentators out there.
Geoff Biddulph
Miami, Florida
THE MARXISTS ARE WINNING
Thanks for your brilliant essay.
Would you please put your brilliant mind to work on another aspect of this problem. There are a whole bunch of people, including the WSJ and Kudlow on NRO, that argue in favor of immigration lunacy on the grounds that it is necessary for the economy.
To them, I would like to say (you can) that they are affirming the very worst that Marx said about capitalism. They are claiming that our grand, hitech, high finance economy in the USA will falter without the importation of bazillions of impoverished, unskilled workers whose lives in the USA will remain mired in relative poverty. Is that not Marx? Is that not the claim that capitalism must exploit workers? How can Kudlow and his ilk not see the Marxists implications of their
claims?
What really bothers me is that the humanities and social science faculties at our elite universities are watching this process and getting stone drunk on champagne every evening. Their ship has come in. George Bush is backing a Marxist position on the relationship between labor and capital. Holy Hell. If you ever dreamed that university faculties might be turned away from their Marxist lotus-eating, now is the time to surrender that dream. Marxism will rule the universities for another
generation. Careers will be made writing about socialism in America or lecturing on the new proletariat and its ripeness for revolution.
Jim Mayhall
Lakeland, Florida
AND THEY CAN VOTE, TOO
The only truth Ted Kennedy has told about the comprehensive immigration reform bill is that is would bring illegals out of the shadows.
Why?
Because the census of 2010 will allocate representation in the House based on number of "residents" counted, not citizens. So, if they are 'out of the shadows' they will be more likely to be counted, and they just happen to be in Blue states. The voting is just lagniappe. {they already win...)
Tom Walsh
Canton, Georgia
LET’S KEEP IT INFORMAL
You are quite correct: Any system to "regularize" the status of illegals would indeed be deemed "amnesty" by opponents such as myself.
My honest question to you is: Since so many of us "restrictionists" are perfectly happy to allow ordinary immigrants to remain here in an informal, unrecognized status -- keeping their jobs, sending their kids to school & college at in-state prices, using the finite medical resources available to the poor, etc, etc. --- why is it so important to you that their status be formalized, regularized, legitimized, whatever you want to call it? Why are they entitled to a formal amnesty rather than the informal one they already have? Why must their victory over American law and their competitors -- legal immigrants -- be utterly complete?
Mark Steyn's suggestion that when the Z-visa law passes, all 300 million Americans should apply for legal immigrant status may have been meant as a wisecrack, but looking at some of the advanatges, in terms of taxes, college tuition, etc., I'm certainly thinking about it.
Bob Pryor
NEW LIFE, NEW IDENTITY
What name can people put on their application? The answer, whatever they want to. There will be no way to verify that the name on the application belongs to the applicant. Therefore, an applicant will become legal with photo, fingerprint and any name that they want to use from here forward. A brand new identity.
Dan Absher
Dallas, Texas
VERY DISINGENUOUS OF YOU
Mark Steyn says:
"The political class' urge to capitulate on the integrity of the national border sends as important a message to the world about American will as their urge to capitulate on Iraq."
How very disingenuous of you. Capitulation of the unwise W. Bush pursuit of democracy in Iraq (or heaven knows what objective changes for a “mission accomplished” will be announced tomorrow or changed daily until the nation is free at last from an idiot president and his bemedaled and decorated banana republic loyal sycophants and appointees) -
A. Would simply mean a regrouping for the nation to begin panning it's first strategy for the war against terror that never had a strategy or a presidential leader. (Giving up on any Bush policy represents a positive, win-win 'capitulation')
B. Capitulation of US sovereignty at our borders and to illegal aliens, regardless of their national origins, represents a post World War II bipartisan abomination that requires plenty of blame to be shared by all citizens and our elected leaders, past and present. The burden is unbearable; the illegal population is probably twice the unrealistic 11-13 million estimate that's routinely mouthed. An effective remedy will prove draconian. Our politicians are still in denial and la-la land -
whatever their express positions. Any national backtracking on this issue would indeed be nothing less than capitulation.
Steyn, you do all Americans, particularly our troops, a disservice by equating capitulation 'A' to capitulation 'B.'
Bruce Simkins
Wichita, Kansas
WILL THEY GET TAX CREDITS?
Most illegal aliens make enough money that if they filed with the IRS they would owe close to nothing and would probably even get earned income tax credits. This means that if they were required to pay back taxes, it would end up costing the federal government (us) more money than it would take in. We better hope that they aren't required to pay back taxes.
Shayne
SUICIDE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
To any Republican supporting this outrageous amnesty bill: HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MINDS????????? Are you aware that this would be the suicide of the Republican party? Are you so short sighted that it hasn't occurred to you that that the overwhelming majority of these new "citizens" are going to succumb to peer pressure and the entitlement mentality and go Democrat? After all we Conservatives have fought for, after how long we have struggled to save our country, our freedoms, our culture, and civilization itself, are you willing to just hand victory to the liberals?
Make no mistake, that is exactly what you are doing by allowing tens of millions of ILLEGAL
aliens, who have no right to be here, into our political process. To you big business cheap labor types, is your greed so blinding that you do not understand that in a few years when the liberals have a clear mandate you will see an "Income and property redistribution" unseen since the Bolshevik Revoloution of 1917? Are you aware that you are handing the labor unions power beyond their wildest dreams?
To you "compassionate" types, do you care if you cause the collapse of our already overburdened health care, school, legal, and financial entitlement systems? Do you understand or care that you are about to turn America into a third world country? Or do you shut your mind to reality as long as you can prove to yourself what a "good person" you are?
To those of you spouting those cowardly, mealy mouthed, whining excuses "We can't just deport them all" and "What do you want to do, create a gestapo to go around busting down doors?" I say hold on, I am going to get my family together and move into your house and demand the right to live there. After all, are you going to throw us out? The whole arguement is invalid and a non issue. Illegal immigrants are here because America is ripe for the picking and they can plunder our resouces with impunity. Change that, make it impossible for illegals to find work or a place to live, stop the outrage of giving them financial and social benefits, control our borders in a meaningful way, and when America is no longer a friendly enviroment, the problem of what to do with the illegals will take care of itself. Perhaps then Mexico will have no choice but to clean up its own act when it no longer has the U.S. to export its problems to.
And to you self appointed Plutocrats in Washington: We the people elected you to serve and protect our country, not to preside over its suicide. MY COUNTRY IS NOT YOURS TO GIVE AWAY!
Daniel L. Bushnell
ENLARGE THE PIE, WHICHEVER WAY YOU SLICE IT
I'm a huge fan. A lot of my friends who just don't get it have been the recipients of America Alone for their birthday presents.
As for braniac immigration. if one's defense is that we need immigrants that do work "Americans won't do" then it makes perfect sense that you'll grant longer and more flexible visas to low-skilled workers than to engineers from Asia or Canadians starting businesses. In theory, there are Americans to do the engineering jobs and to start businesses, so high-skilled immigrants are
taking jobs away from Americans. Since we are more in need of low-skill workers (since there is no such thing as a low-skilled American) then the increased demand would necessitate a more generous Z-1 visa.
Not saying I agree with this logic.I am a firm believer in expanding the pie by bringing as much talent here as possible. I'm just saying that with a couple simple assumptions, there is a logical argument for why the visa terms are the way they are.
But I'm sure you already knew the argument for the Z-1 terms. It's good to vent though. This is a ridiculous surrender for the Senate GOP. Keep up the great work!
Julian Millikan
A HUMAN TSUNAMI
Now is not the time to be silent. We must make our voices heard. The new immigration bill being railroaded through Congress will trigger a human tsunami which will flood our country, states, cities, even our own neighborhoods with immigrants who have no desire to assimilate into America's culture.
Greg Mercer
Atlanta, Georgia
KIND UNCLE GEORGE
If you and I had wanted a Socialist president I guess we would have voted for Kerry (Billionaires make such delightful Socialists, don't they?). Aunt Hillary's already after $10 Billion for mandatory pre-K for all the new "Z Citizens, but I'll bet good old conservative Uncle George can outspend her by a trillion. A trillion here, a trillion there..............
I was just reading where the building boom in Sarasota (and all of Florida) is over and won't be returning any time soon. Assuming vast numbers of illegals were employed in construction, that only leaves cutting grass and picking fruit/vegetables as their new career choices. Faced with that decision, you and I'd be on the next Greyhound to Guadalarja, or wherever. But, wait, let's not forget that Uncle George is going to be taking care of the things that Con Agra won't.
If Con Agra can only afford to pay these poor people $5 an hour (bottom line, you know), it's OK. Ever hear of the EITC? Yep, good old Uncle George will be right there in January with a check for a few thousand dollars per family. The more kids, the more money. You can even throw in the kids from back home, who's going to check, IRS, INS, ha ha ha?
And, a few years down the road, old Aunt Hillary will be along with the $10 an hour minimum wage while still qualifying everyone for Medicaid, free schooling, EITC, health and welfare benefits, etc.
All the while these new non-taxpaying "Z" citizens will be covered by a neat little program called "Affirmative Action" where they get preference over non-Z citizens (i.e., legal caucasians) in just about everything--college, loans, job preference, promotions, Government contracts, etc.
Wow, aren't Uncle George and Aunt Hillary just about the nicest people in the world.........
Or, how about we import all our fruits and vegetables from South America (while we plant wheat, soy, corn, etc. that we harvest mechanically) and give every American homeowner a lawnmower. The exercise will do most of them good............
Bob McCaffrey
LET’S START PAYING TODAY
You're the first article I read each issue and America Alone was an eye opener, keep up the good work. One of the serious consequences of this immigration bill is the future impact it will have on Social Security benefits. Why just future? Let’s set some actuaries to the task of spreading that future reduction in benefits (that I will suffer) to current recipients. Let's start paying for the immigration bill today, by proposing a 30% benefit reduction (or whatever gigantic, meaningful percentage it is) effective immediately. Pay as you go. Where have I heard that?
“SamRuGG”
CONSERVATIVES FOR IMMIGRATION REFORM
As an fan of National Review and the Corner, let me propose that National Review should think carefully how it should handle the immigration issue. There are many conservative Republicans that are for pro Immigration reform that the President advocates. For the past year we have been insulted and called the worst names. Traitor and descriptions of our views as treason and spineless comes to mind. At no point did the National Review it seems try to rein this in. To say this had no part in reasoned debate.
The facts are these. First we had a grand ole debate on this in the Republican Primary in Utah last year. We won. We won despite the hardliners throwing everything at us but the kitchen sink. In two races for Congress in Arizona immigration was front and center. Both Randy Graff and Rep Hayworth ran on a hardline approach. Their opponents ran on a platform of immigration reform similar to Bush. Both Republicans lost. This issue did not save Senator Santorum either. I
think we can detect a pattern, However we are told to shut up and be quiet. We are taking some serious damage here in the Hispanic community. Hispanic conservatives and Republicans have been treated horribly. Look up articles about last years Texas State Republican Convention and one can see the hurt. It was in effect mean.
May I suggest that NR reach out a little. Perhaps they can ask a Republican Represenative frorm a 98 percent Hispanic district for his input. That would be Luis G. Fortuño frpm Puerto Rico that represents the interest of that Island in the Congress. Funny, Rush was telling me today that hispanics will not vote Republican. Damn these facts. Here is his web site.
Perhaps NRO can reach out to the Republican National Hispanic Assembly.
I am not sure how the current stand of NR is smart politcs. It seems again we are going for broke for an all or nothing approach. If we lose there is a good chance that many of the common sense things in the Senate bill will be eliminated as to Border Security and a future point program.
JH
Louisiana
TEN TRILLION AND COUNTING
I appreciate your analysis so much! In your Sun-Times article you mention the Z-2 and Z-3 visa. It appears to me that this means that the amnesty is not for the 12 million (or however many there are really here), but it is amnesty for 3? times that many because the parents, children and siblings obtain status, as well. I think it was Mark Krikorian who estimated the net government liabilities for the current group at $2.9(?) trillion. That would imply that the real cost could approach $10 trillion in new government liability.
That doesn't even get at the balkanization and other cultural issues you so eloquently address.
Don Thompson
HOT SOURCE
I've just read your note about the outrageous constraints placed on immigration officers.
I have looked at the Thomas text listing for the section you cite, and mine is different from what you state. What is your source?
Leonard Bertagnolli
THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON THE AGENCY
The problem is actually even worse than you describe. It puts the burden of proof in precisely the wrong direction by requiring the agency to issue unless, within 24 hours, reason to the contrary can be found. Worse, a suspicious person might think that those bureaucrats who turn down very many applicants might find their career advancement at an end. Care to make a side bet on that? I suspect that the rewards for those who protect the nation from would-be terrorists or criminals will be few and small, while those who expedite approvals will have a bright future. One might even think that the process will be far friendlier than a visit to your driving license agency or the like.
I am not certain just whose interests this whole dreadful business is supposed to serve, but it's certainly not the nation's. By the way, all four of my wife's grandparents came here from abroad, and all came through Ellis Island, legally. Had they only known this day was coming, they could
have been spared those indignities.
T N Martin
WHY STOP AT THE BORDER?
I read your most recent Sun-Times column on the Z-1 amnesty visas, and your contention that "the presumption of every school district and hospital and welfare administrator will be that they're obliged to treat everyone who walks in through the door as if they were a Z-1" is typical narrow-minded, right-wing nationalist drivel.
Why should we wait until they've walked through the door?
Since there's no apparent legal impediment to giving Zorro visas (taking from the rich Americans and giving to the poor soon-to-be Americans) to everyone on the planet, it seems to me that everyone should be treated like they have one, right now. And it will seem that way to every judge Hillary appoints, too. What's to prevent court orders mandating federal tax money provide equal per-student expenditures in Kinshasa and Kansas City? Nothing I can see except the agreement of those fool enough to immigrate legally and those unlucky enough to be born here that gutting immigration law is a foolish and dangerous idea, and our voices have no effect on the political process.
Brian Gates
DOWN THE TUBES
Your article is spot on!
My impression of the Congressional yahoos is that the only bipartisanship they exhibit is toward building a larger and more efficient toilet for flushing us all down the drain.
M Ramsey
Alpine, California
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REPUBLICANS?
Mark, you gotta help me.
I'm an independent, I refuse to join any party and I vote based on issues and the quality of the politicians running for office. For years my political scales have been balanced by the republicans and Democrats. I counted on the Republicans to be fiscally conservative, strong on the military, tough on crime and keep the excesses of the Democrats in check. I counted on the Democrats to watch out for the environment, support the little guy, keep an eye on big business and the military keep the excesses of the Republicans in check.
But now the Republicans are spending like crazy and getting soft on illegal aliens. The Democrats support the war, forgot about healthcare and the price of gas, and the only little guys they want to help are citizens of other countries. Both parties are spending my money like a kid in a candy store.
Please tell me the bell is going to ring, they will go to their respective corners and remember who they are!
Kris Rossmiller
Plainfield, Illinois
ENTITLEMENT REFORM
It is not immigration legislation, nor is it border security legislation. It is comprehensive entitlement reform (2007), or comprehensive entitlement immolation as it will be viewed in 2020 or so. In fact, it is the biggest expansion of entitlement programs in the last 50 years since Bush pushed through the last biggest expansion of entitlement programs in the last 50 years! Ya gotta hand it to him, I didn't think he could ever top getting "republicans"* to support an even bigger entitlement program than the prescription drug benefit!
*I couldn't get my email font size small enough to write small r "republican" proportionate to the size that this incredibly shrinking party is reducing itself to. Pretty soon, you'll need an electron microscope to see it.
Jesse Cole
Butte, Montana
GO EAST YOUNG MAN
Mark: Your headline about some Hispanic Americans turning to Islam nothwithstanding, what would you think of the idea of a U.S./EC effort to direct more Mexican and other Latin American emigration to the EC countries? This could do much to address Europe's taxpayer/youth shortage, wean the EC off its dependence on less assimilable immigrants from Islamic lands, and stem the influx of illegals to the U.S. Of course, it would force the Europeans to admit they'd prefer immigrants of some cultures over those of other cultures, and that would be a barrier....
Thoughts?
John
Washington, DC
NO TO JURY DUTY
Funniest thing about that story is that the illegals in San Antonio (Bexar County) only asserted their nationality when it came to jury duty. Si to Vote, No to Duty
Steve Shultz
Eagan, Minnesota
YOUR SOCIAL, PLEASE
Wasn't there a huge concern about identity theft at some time in the recent past? Wasn't legislation involved and concerns about banking and social security fraud, etc all a part of this?
Are we now encouraging this because these folks are all here to "build a better life?"
Could I have your social security number and bank account info? I'd also like to build a better life...
Dave
MARK FOR PRESIDENT
Powerful stuff.....beautifully capped off by your very pertinent very last line. The whole package...in so few words. Pure Steyn.
( If they DO modify the U.S. Constitution to allow Arnie to run for pres, promise us you'll run too, Mark....against him.. Oops...guess you'll have to get your citizenship first. Think, maybe ....2035, Mark, for "legals").
John Gross
Beloeil, Quebec
BUT WHAT CAN WE DO?
Good editorial, but what exactly do you propose that "We the People" do about it?
The legal citizens, me for example, can't stop paying taxes to defund this ridiculousness. Trying to overthrow the govt' will land us in jail or in the grave. Shooting the illegals as they cross into the country will also result in jail time - even if you're a designated border guard, and even if they shoot first.
Oh I know! We'll have a Rock Concert, a'la Gore.
That will solve the problem for sure.
Gene
Hamilton, Missouri
24-HOUR GUNS
I think if you tried to apply that 24-hour self-destruct provision to, say, firearms purchase applications, you'd find the people who favor it in the immigration instance in high dudgeon over it in the firearms one.
Interesting, these guys are.
Betsy Gorisch
Knoxville, Tennessee
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