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[Announcer] It's the return of Mark Steyn. He's always mistakenly British—tea and crumpets, cheerio—but he's really a Canuck. Known on all seven continents. [Woman: "Oh I know who you are."] America's Undocumented Anchorman. He's a recording star and a TV star. Tuesdays, James Golden, AKA Bo Snerdley presents: Mark Steyn.
Bo Snerdley: And ladies and gentlemen, indeed, you heard with great fanfare. We are so pleased to have him back. Our very own, he's the king of the universe. Mark, I was over in London over the weekend. I saw your pictures everywhere. I saw the billboards, I saw that. No wonder you didn't want to come home. You're like the most famous guy in the world over there.
Mark Steyn: Oh, that's not true. I'd much rather Van Morrison and Tom Jones had invited me to join them. They're the two greatest guys and when you're...When you're looking at Tom Jones, resist the urge to throw your knickers at him, James.
Bo Snerdley: If you're gonna throw knickers at somebody, it better be Tom Jones.
Mark Steyn: Yeah, that's true. Van doesn't like it. But Tom will still take them. He doesn't like it when he's doing his ballads. But if he's not doing "It's Not Unusual," or "Delilah" he's happy to take your underwear.
Bo Snerdley: Mark. First of all, in all seriousness, Mark, I've been following what you what you what you were doing over there. And I have to tell you, the work that you did over there is amazing. You have brought to light and you've investigated cases that we're talking about it here but in much more muted terms about all these people that just suddenly die. They just, they're healthy. And they just, they're young. Some of them are doctors, some of them are sports figures. They're in the prime of their health. And all of a sudden out of nowhere, they just die. And no one can figure it out.
Mark Steyn: Well, we have and it's gone on all spring and summer, we have basically excess mortality, which means you've got a big pile of corpses that's higher than it should be. So that's about as basic as it gets if you're into all this nanny state, and what does government do for me. Government is actually right now we got all these extra corpses. And it's consistent, basically, across the developed world. It's true in the UK, it's true in Western Europe. It's true in Canada. It's true in Australia, and it's true in the United States. And the United States is very interesting, because in some ways, they got the most granular figures from all these insurers, it's young and middle aged people who shouldn't be dead. In America, it's this big bubble of people from 25 to 54, who are dead and I, you know, I just think we should be able to ask questions about it.
In Alberta in Canada. So just north of the border in Alberta, the leading cause of death isn't cancer or strokes, or heart attacks, it's cause unknown, right? This is a first world society. I know that might come as news to Americans. But this part of Canada is a first world society, and the leading cause of death is cause unknown. It's incredible what's going on.
Bo Snerdley: And of course, there are certain parallels with this. Before the break, I just played Dr. Fauci telling them again, that we're going to have to take these jabs once a year forever from now on. I saw a brilliant, I think it was a tweet. It said this. It was it was a slogan, it was one of these memes and it said, "I tried to follow the science. But it was simply not there. I then followed the money. That's where I found the science."
Mark Steyn: Yeah. It's kind of odd that, isn't it? And it's certainly true. I mean, when you look at, for example, the fact checkers on Facebook are part funded by Pfizer, you know, oh, really. So the people, every time I'm saying, look at Joe Biden. He's been jabbed up the wazoo. He's been jabbed. Everyone gets within a couple of yards of Joe Biden has been jabbed up the wazoo, and yet he's still getting it. The guy got twice in three weeks and they "Oh that's rebound COVID." You know, it's about oh, he took he took the Pfizer product. And it didn't keep him from getting COVID. But now he's got it, we'll give him another Pfizer product and oh look the COVID is cleared up for a day and a half, but he's got rebound COVID again, so we'll find a third Pfizer....you know this at some point, you've got to say, "You know, I think I'll take my chances with whatever this thing is."
Bo Snerdley: Well, okay, so before we go off this Mark, I maintain and I just want to know, if you would, would think I'm out of my mind, or whether maybe an ounce of sanity. I think that what we're looking at is the biggest scandal in human history. And I say that because it's so vast. On one hand, we've got drugs that people were warned off not to take, we even have this guy from what's his name from 538, saying, you know, there's a story here about how the some of the drug companies delayed trying to get vaccines out in order to hurt Trump and the election, he thinks and it needs to be investigated. On the other hand, you have drugs that some doctors say definitely worked. Like hydroxycloroquine. There was another study released this week that ivermectin worked. And so the news media and all of them jumped on it and told people don't take these things. They're terrible. They're horse dewormers. And so then you had all these people in nursing homes that were thrown on top of each other. So you have all of that. You have the money, you have the politics, you have what's going on now, which is people are saying, other studies are pointing to, there's a study today, a story about a study today that says blood damage is high among people on research articles in Italy, in Germany, of course, there have been research done in Israel, that has said that some of the things that we Americans have believed about it is totally wrong. So you have all this quote "misinformation." This is the biggest scandal, I think in human history.
Mark Steyn: Well, I think it is, I think it's a huge scandal. And I think that basically everything that has been done since March 2020, has basically made things worse. But you have governments all over the world who are not willing to give up on that. You just played that clip of Dr. Fauci. Dr. Fauci likes the idea of a public health emergency forever. I made the mistake of returning to the United States via Canada and Canada, it's like March 2020, in perpetuity, at least in Europe, people are walking around without masks, and you don't wear masks on the planes and, and you have some at least semblance of normality, but Justin Trudeau wants to maintain basically, a COVID dictatorship. And I think that's what it is, is he's preventing people getting on planes. He's preventing people who aren't even Canadian citizens from leaving the country. And I think there are just far too many people who, for whom the part the permanent emergency offers all these opportunities. And it's tragic. It's made things worse, it's killed, large numbers of people. The decisions of people like Fauci have actually killed more people than needed to die.
Bo Snerdley: Mark, I cannot let you get away and I wonder if we can keep you past the break if we must, because today was a big leadership change over across the pond, but some reason you...I don't understand these people over there, they had Boris Johnson. Okay, so Boris likes to go out and party and do other things that every other you know, whatever leader does, he's a hypocrite. So what everybody is. Scandal plagued Boris Johnson thrown out of office and now we have this woman. What call her, tusk, Truss, pus?
Mark Steyn: Liz Truss, don't worry, she'll be gone. She'll be gone in a couple of weeks. You know, it's not like the fabulous system we have here where a guy spends two years running, he's in Iowa he's doing that thing where he has to go and eat bloomin' onions at the Iowa State Fair. That's a fantastic way to pick a leader by the way. And then he's doing the pancake flip in New Hampshire and it all goes on for two years and then he becomes elected. And then they tie him down in some Department of Justice investigation and screw over his term. And by the time that investigation is ended, all the guys for the next term are running. That's fantastic. They don't have that.
My favorite is the Australian system where the guy is you know, he lingers too long over lunch. So he thinks, "Oh, I think I think I'll have the desert and then he hears a rumor they're plotting against him. And by the time he takes his napkin off and gets to the caucus room, they've deposed him. And the replacement is already at Yarralumla, Government House, being sworn in and taking his oath of allegiance to the Queen. So in Australia, they can wrap this thing up in 15 minutes as opposed to the two and a half years. And it costs here to run for president basically costs a billion dollars now, and in Australia, it basically costs about three bucks 75 for the cab ride to the Governor General's house, it's a very different system.
Bo Snerdley: Mike, can you hold on through the break because I want to ask you about this Truss woman. Supposedly, she's an anti monarchist. And she hated Margaret Thatcher but yet they're trying to make her out to be the next Margaret Thatcher.
Mark Steyn: Yeah, that's right. She's held varying views. She was actually calling for a republic. But she was quite happy to kiss hands with the Queen today because now she's got the keys to the Prime Ministership. It's funny how that works.
Bo Snerdley: We're gonna continue this extra special edition, Mark is back folks. Mark Steyn is back. We'll be right back.
Joe Biden: MAGA forces are determined to take this country backwards, backwards to an America where there is no right to choose, no right to privacy, no right to contraception, no right to marry who you love. They promote authoritarian leaders and they fan the flames of political violence that are a threat to our personal rights, to the pursuit of justice, to the rule of law, to the very soul of this country. They look at the mob that stormed the United States Capitol on January 6, rudely attacking law enforcement, not as insurrectionists who placed a dagger at the throat of our democracy, but they're looked at as patriots. And they see their MAGA failure to stop a peaceful transfer of power after the 2020 election as preparation for the 2022 and 2024 elections. They tried everything last time to nullify the votes of 81 million people. This time they're determined to succeed in thwarting the will of the people.
Bo Snerdley: Ladies and gentlemen, Mark, that's your President. Well, what do you think about that?
Mark Steyn: Well, I would say just having been away for a couple of months, that one of the....I mean, the entire Western world with very few exceptions is crazy right now, but the problem is worse in America because of the corruption and that's what it is. And Biden would not in a normal society. I mean, places like....I regret it. But you know, Canada, half the people actually are crazy for what Justin Trudeau is doing for them, they've come by their god awful status honestly, to however you might feel about that. That is true to one degree or another in France or whatever other example you want to pick. Here we are in a very dangerous situation. And it's more than just the partisanship of it. It's more than just Biden siccing the FBI on his political rival and having them raid Mar-a-Lago. The revelations, for example, that the FBI were basically surveiling Rudy Giuliani or predecessor last hour. They're basically surveiling him during all the time of the Hunter Biden laptop thing. So they know, then when they denounced the Hunter Biden laptop as Russian misinformation, that that is not so because they've actually had the laptop, they've got the laptop and they know what's on it is real. It's very different. It's a scale of decay, that it's very difficult to get out from under when your Justice Department is corrupt, when your National Police Agency is corrupt. When your IRS agents, you're basically hiring commandos for your tax accountants.
Bo Snerdley: The person that they want, by the way to lead those 87,000 agents, is an acolyte of Lois Lerner. He's Lois Lerner's understudy. I mean, they just they've just brazen. They don't care what we think about anything.
Mark Steyn: No well Lois Lerner is, for people who've forgotten her. She's the one who slow walked and investigated applications for tax free status from Tea Party groups. But on the other hand, Barack Obama's brother who isn't a US citizen, he lives in Kenya. And he was raising money for a basically a memorial latrine to their father, a memorial rest area, on some Kenyan road, he got personally approved by Lois Lerner, even though she had to actually suspend the laws of the United States in order to be able to approve him. And because she skated, because they got away with it, because all the stupid Lindsey Graham type investigations go nowhere. And it actually shouldn't be the job of a legislator to hold basically criminal investigations. But because they got away with it, they're now doubling down on it. And that, again, is the difference. I don't particularly like, you know, Her Majesty's what is it HMRC, Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs in Britain or in Canada or wherever, I don't like them, but at least they can't kick the door down and put a bullet in you, which the IRS will now be able to do.
Bo Snerdley: This is stunning. How what has happened in just the...how long were you over there?
Mark Steyn: I was there basically for a couple of months. I had the summer over there and I mean it's....but what's interesting is if you compare how we were talking back in June, how it's accelerated just over the summer.
Bo Snerdley: Yes, and I mean, things have taken such a turn here. And of course, with the appointment of the Special Master today. Now the Liberals are screaming that this judge is an interventionist judge, this is outrageous. No one thinks it's outrageous to actually on the left, thinks it's outrageous to actually conduct a raid on the house of a former president, simply because he's a political opponent of yours.
Mark Steyn: No, and even if you accept that everything that the FBI and the Department of Justice and Biden's pompom girls, even if you accept that everything that they're saying is true, the raid still isn't justified. I mean, these are in the....there's a question about whether these documents are the personal property of the President or whether they belong to some government archives and it's all stupid and irrelevant these days because there's hardly anything done in paperwork anymore anyway, so it's not like that Clinton guy whatever, Sandy Berger stuffing the stuff down in the gusset of his underwear and waddling out with them. It's not looking just a bit lumpy. There's no need to do that anymore. All this all this stuff is created electronically, and they've all got copies of it.
So the whole thing is rubbish. But the idea...what's weird here....there was some guy on MSNBC who was saying, "Well, I don't even I don't even know what the fuss is about here. Other countries all over the world arrest their political leaders and put them in jail all the time. They've done it in Venezuela and the Congo." Oh, right. Okay, well, that's great. That's exactly the company I want to be keeping. I mean, it's incredible this stuff. I mean, I will say you are you were mocking Boris, Boris Johnson. Boris doesn't actually send the coppers to kick down the doors of his political opponent and frame him on some cockamamie charge. And again, that is what you always have to bear in mind. They would love to have had an excuse to if Trump had been there to shoot him for resisting arrest. They would love to do that. And this idea and too many conservatives are—our friend Sean Hannity says oh 95 percent of the FBI are good men, they're straight shooting G men just like in the movies we all grew up with. No, they're not. This is a corrupted institution from top to toe.
Bo Snerdley: Agreed.
Mark Steyn: And the position is that it needs to be abolished and replaced with something with far narrower powers.
Bo Snerdley: You know, I totally agree with that. Mark. Okay, so uh, one last question about Truss. Because I think that you're. You know, I believe in American exceptionalism. But I think the Brits have one over us. I do I think they do have something over us. Look. In this time, women say that they cannot get elected to, they just can't break that glass ceiling. Okay. Hillary's tried it a few times. You know you've had you know who else.
Mark Steyn: Elizabeth Warren. Elizabeth Warren claims have been told by a voter the only reason I am not voting for you is because you don't have a penis. I don't believe anyone ever said that. Unfortunately. Now I can't get the image of Elizabeth Warren with a penis out of my head. So I don't know what she's on about. But you know that Britain is starting today is just got its third female prime minister.
Bo Snerdley: Mark, this one more. This one. This gal had an affair. This gal slept around on her husband. I mean, she kept the husband, but she slept around on him and the voters. I mean, the people over there in Great Britain they don't care. You don't even see any big scandal but it's like she slept with her husband. And she slept with somebody else. So what?
Mark Steyn: Don't forget she's coming after Boris Johnson who sleeps with everything that moves and a lot of things that don't. Boris, I've known Boris whatever it is 30 years now. I had dinner with Boris at a swanky restaurant in London and there was a young lady there with us that Boris took a liking to. The four of us came out of the restaurant, we let the lady take the first cab. Boris was on his bicycle. And he starts basically after the girl in the cab because he needs it now and he's so...He needs it and he's bicycling but he could keep up with that taxicab until he gets the girl. So you know, Liz Truss would have to be Bill Clinton on steroids affairs wise to actually to for that to be an issue after Boris Johnson.
Bo Snerdley: Mark. Always great, my friend. Thank you. Welcome back home.
Mark Steyn: My pleasure, James.
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