On January 22, 2019 at 4:00 pm, Robert Fox wrote:
After reading the statement issued by the HS student who is being singled out, here is basically a thumb nail view of the timeline surrounding the incident as I see it:
1) A group of HS students from Covington KY were in Washington DC to demonstrate their support for the pro-life movement.
2) After spending a number of days sight-seeing around DC, these particular students began assembling at the Lincoln Memorial at a scheduled time to meet the buses that were returning them Covington
3) It just so happened that a black nationalist hate group was nearby and began its floor show of bigotry and general ugliness directed at the students who were simply waiting to be picked up by buses
4) During the course of the rancid display, a Native American activist named Phillips entered they fray.
5) The students, thinking Phillips was coming to their aid, became confused when it appeared Phillips was attempting to incite the students into reacting against him.
6) The students, and especially the one being singled out, behaved themselves and responded appropriately.
7) The buses eventually arrived, the students boarded and left for home.
This could have been my kid's HS. This could have been anyone's HS. Covington Catholic is closed today because there have been threats of violence. This student has unwillingly become a public figure and his family's well being is at risk and will be for some time. For what? Because he showed up at the Lincoln Memorial to get on a bus? This kid's life will never the same. For what? Are the media so decrepit that they don't see the damage that has been done, over nothing? Why hasn't there been vitriol directed at the group of black nationalists for their venomous behavior? Where is the accountability? I'm a practicing Catholic myself. Yesterday, I was talking to fellow parishioners from my church about the revelation that everyone got this all wrong. And you know what some of the responses were? "Well, I'm sure it all started because of some comments made by those students. You know how those boys are that come from all male Catholic schools." I feel like I'm going crazy. Maybe I am.
On January 22, 2019 at 4:00 pm, Brandy Edwards wrote:
Thank you for your comments on Tucker last night. You are so right about us being in the "how did we get from there to here" phase of society. I wonder if we got "here" (where people are so dehumanized) as a result of our technology/social media/entertainment culture? Hollywood, TV, video games, etc. have been dehumanizing people for decades now. The "news" media has jumped on that bandwagon too, since they've gone to full blown Democratic Party propaganda machine. Social media has replaced real human interaction. All leading to "here".
It also really bothers me though when they start picking on kids. Kids should be off limits...full stop. Whatever happened to the left's anti-bullying craze a couple years back? I'd say threatening to kill 14 and 15 year old kids is the epitome of bullying, but what do I know? You would think that there could be some criminal liability for these people threatening and doxxing these kids on social media with all the cyberbullying laws on the books. Like you said, it's pure evil.
The other thing that strikes me is how the Black Hebrew Israelites (or whatever they're called) have gotten a total free pass in the media. They're behavior was threatening to those kids and completely abhorrent, yet these guys skate. I don't get it.
One last thing, funny that you mentioned Orwell's 1984 on Tucker last night. I've never read it and I keep forgetting to ask you (during the last three Q & A's) if you'd do that one for Tales for Our Time. Any chance you'd give that one a read for us?
On January 22, 2019 at 4:01 pm, John Frey wrote:
Mark, take a swing at the racist haters who start with the assumption that all white men are racist haters. Oh, the hypocrisy! Keep pounding the double standard of the intolerant "tolerance" crowd.
On January 22, 2019 at 4:01 pm, Michael Johnston wrote:
I haven't partaken yet of the Live format. I understand your main subject being the despicable treatment of these patient Catholic kids. It seems self evident, though the might must be heard. However, I wonder if you'll have a moment to examine, now or soon, the Trudeau's government's new fascist 'impaired driving' laws. Guilty until proven innocent and a foot in the door of everyone's home up to two hours after you are alleged to have driven. It seems to me the larger issues are discarding 'probable cause' and 'unlawful detainment', before they threw in 'guilty until proven innocent' to boot. Since you can't prove a negative, we are at the mercy of the state's officials whims.
On January 22, 2019 at 4:02 pm, King K wrote:
They had better sue - and win. Or else, this becomes just another victory for totalitarian leftist intimidation and all of our fulminating about it will amount to just a few minutes of diversion. The whole truth of the incident will drop down the Memory Hole and all that will be remembered is that it doesn't pay to cross the left. Don't just shrug it off - fight back, or all of the rights and traditions we value will be lost.
On January 22, 2019 at 4:03 pm, Lowell Walker wrote:
I was very disappointed when National Review jumped on these kids. They're running an apology today. Mark's right, this will live on forever.
Also very disappointed when N.R. dropped Mark. I really looked forward to what he had to say. There's a term we no longer have in public discourse: The benefit of the doubt. At least until you have all the available facts.
On January 22, 2019 at 4:06 pm, Sam Williamson wrote:
Cyber Jackals. That's a pretty good term to describe the current state of public discourse in western civilization. People addicted to their devices living by nano-second judgements. The barbarians aren't at the gate anymore; they roam freely in people's heads.
Shame on conservatives for buying into that snake oil business. Good job as usual by the ever-perceptive Mr. Steyn.
On January 22, 2019 at 4:07 pm, Lawrence Beasley wrote:
Mark do you know of any good reason -- concerns over accuracy or charity or even just strategy -- why we shouldn't call out the conservative establishment for being a controlled opposition?
Ace of Spades points out that they the Leftist media routinely smears the conservative populace, and the conservative elite still assumes good faith for the former while jumping to the worst conclusions about the latter. If their instinct is take the other side in any fight, maybe we should conclude that they prefer the other side.
On January 22, 2019 at 4:08 pm, Sol wrote:
I suppose for National Review this is a byproduct of becoming the moneyed interests' useful Walter Mitty-its.
On January 22, 2019 at 4:09 pm, George Pereira wrote:
All of these "hate crimes" have been shown to be either self inflicted by some lefty on himself or provoked by some left wing group.
No matter how crazed the incident is at first I've just gotten to a point of waiting a few hours or a few days and without fail; this is important, without fail the left wing narrative is shown to be false.
If I could figure this out why can't someone so superior to a deplorable like myself do the same?
On January 22, 2019 at 4:09 pm, Marla from Maine wrote:
Mark, do you think that the Trump administration has any intention or inclination to take on the social media monopolies. Wondering if you think that this administration understands the big picture with respect to their power over information, and so many other elements of society.
On January 22, 2019 at 4:10 pm, Mike wrote:
Have you noticed that 48 hours after the Covington kids' exoneration, aside from the lack of mea culpas, there is no shaming whatsoever by celebs of the hate group that started the whole thing?
It's like they are not interested at all in the real hateful people, once they know it's not the people they want it to be.
On January 22, 2019 at 4:10 pm, Carl wrote:
Unlike the current twitter mobs, at least the old medieval witch hunt mobs gave the accused the benefit of a trial by ordeal before the sentencing
On January 22, 2019 at 4:14 pm, Emily Maxymiv wrote:
This Covington School incident is a good reminder about the dangers of identity politics. The number of people willing to wall themselves off in identity politics seems to be growing and only reaffirms my belief we are headed back to living a segregated society. Segregation in the name of diversity is already occurring on American campuses with racially segregated dorms and even segregated graduation ceremonies. Will the madness stop before we get to this point?
PS. We're making a making a road trip from Virginia to Reading, PA next month to see your show and can't wait!
On January 22, 2019 at 4:18 pm, Jamie Marsh wrote:
Unfortunately we've come to expect a social media lynch mob from the left. It's still shocking to see the ugliness in action as with Covington. But when did we lose the pseudo-right? What you so appropriately call Conservatism Inc. Trump wasn't originally my first choice, but that didn't cause me to lose my mind because he won. And he's done a fair job I think. How could Conservatism Inc get it so wrong that they seem to sell out their core values? Is it just raw hatred is making them crazy, or were they phonies from the start?
On January 22, 2019 at 4:18 pm, Nicola Timmerman wrote:
Do you think Nicholas Sandmann will be accepted by Harvard University like they accepted mediocre student David Hogg of Parkland school shooting fame? And will he care?
On January 22, 2019 at 4:20 pm, Macedonian Content Farmer wrote:
There have been many Road to Dystopia remakes, e.g., Wells' Morlocks breeding Eloi; Huxley's drug induced Brave New World; Orwell's strongman; Heinlein's American Theocracy, etc. The latter may actually be happening in Europe, but it won't be even pseudo-Christian.
What I see happening here is more akin to Zardoz, where the smart "swells" wall themselves off from the brutish world. Unfortunately, I don't think that such people realize that they are, in fact, the Golgafrinchan Telephone Sanitizers and it is they who would go extinct. This sort of thinking was hinted at by a rare bit of inventive comedy on Saturday Night Live, where they showed a parody commercial for "The Bubble", a walled off version of Brooklyn where you only had like-minded left-wing people around you. You didn't have to deal with the messy realities in the rest of the country. I felt it was a wonderful parable on the blue bubbles of the left and right coasts.
And do the established members of Conservatism Inc loathe themselves, or are they in it to get to the good cocktail parties? Enquiring minds want to know.
On January 22, 2019 at 4:20 pm, David wrote:
Those of us of a certain age remember a very powerful commercial on TV for environmental causes, showing a ruined American vista and an aged Native American elder looking stoically at the scene, but with eyes moistening to a tear dropping down his face.
That's the thought that came to mind as I watched the alleged "Native American elder" wielding his drum inches from the face of a young and astonishingly stoic white teenager suppressing his hormonal urges to do something stupid as most teenagers would and just standing there and taking it. If only he too could have faked a tear.
Shame on NR for piling on. Although they apologized and took down the rubbish they put up, it is time they took a long look at their own conservatism and asked themselves what would WFB do. Maybe they should be hiring Mark as their editor.
On January 22, 2019 at 4:21 pm, Lawrence Beasley wrote:
About that smirk -- the uplifted chin, the coprophagic grin -- we've seen it before from an elitist one-percenter politician who went to Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard, but you can't criticize that guy's affect without being accused of racist dog whistles.
On January 22, 2019 at 4:24 pm, Rich wrote:
Hi Mark - as always, love the Club and appreciate all your work!
Two items come to mind today. The first, a quote: "A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its boots." It's natural for us to want to know how events are transpiring immediately, especially in dramatic situations, whether it's an active shooter in the US or a search-and-rescue mission in a cave somewhere in Thailand. As these events occur and shortly thereafter, the the folks on the ground are always extremely cautious to make sure their ducks are in a row. Journalists and pundits, however, have an incentive to break the story first and drive traffic to websites and TV screens, not necessarily to get it right out of the gate.
The second item is a phrase Rush used to, (and my still), use all the time: the Drive-By Media. He minted that a long time ago, but how prescient in an area of instant gratification! I have no doubt whoever first presented the footage wanted to paint the MAGA hat-wearing students in a bad light, but the fact that the coverage was so one-sided should have served as an obvious warning to "conservative" media that things were not completely as they seemed.
Twitter can be a fantastic resource for local news, ("car accident; avoid main street" or "snow day; school is cancelled"), but if the national media wants to lose the Fake News moniker, I would suggest they try reporting national news rather than creating it!
On January 22, 2019 at 4:26 pm, Charles Wascher wrote:
So the March for Life draws 20x the womens march ... what a great way to destroy the march for life / some young religious kids / and virtue signal for abortion ...
On January 22, 2019 at 4:27 pm, Michael Seth wrote:
Hi Mark, your passion regarding the recent cowardice of public conservatives is spot on. I wonder how we'll get through the next Supreme Court nomination or Trump re-election under such leadership. Since there seems little hope of an outbreak of courage, how do you foresee events such as these unfolding? Violence seems ever more likely -aren't we rushing toward conflict much worse than provocative smirking? What will that look like? Cheers - Mike Seth Rockaway,NJ
On January 22, 2019 at 4:30 pm, Bart Nielsen wrote:
Mark, you have a front-end seat to watch our civilization pitch over the cliff, and you have paid and are paying a heavy price for having the courage to point out the Emporer's lack of suitable attire.
How do you maintain your buoyant cheerfulness in the face of all this?
On January 22, 2019 at 4:33 pm, Timothy McDonnell wrote:
There have been several articles in the past couple of days regarding the upcoming covering of the murals in the Administration Building of the University of Notre Dame. The murals depict Columbus coming to the Americas.
"Columbus' treatment of Native Americans was cited by the president [of Notre Dame] as the reason." It all seems to be a part of how you have previously described people in the West as, "Not knowing who we are." How would you combat the covering of these murals?
On January 22, 2019 at 4:34 pm, Cat in the MAGA Hat wrote:
Hello Mark, did you see the NRO apology? What is your opinion of their attempt to weasel out of having been willingly played by the leftist narrative. Now they are bashing the anti-Covington crowd, but they were the anti-Covington crowd two seconds ago!
On January 22, 2019 at 4:37 pm, David Elstrom wrote:
The Democrat Propaganda Stenographic Corps (fka MSM) even today are reporting the Covington High story as if there is still some open question about the students' behavior. At least conservative outlets that picked up the lie retracted their articles and apologized. Not so the DPSC which doubles down. Plus so far as I've seen their school is still "investigating" (read groveling)—cravenly supporting the lie instead of standing by its students.
On January 22, 2019 at 4:38 pm, Laura Rosen Cohen wrote:
Here's a two-fer for you!
First, without going all Tin Foil hat on you, what do you think the chances are that this entire story was contrived, plotted and funded by the left.
Second, I know you're not the biggest fan of the American justice system but do you think that a lawsuit by the students and their parents against the various slanderous and libelous parties would be warranted and justified in this case? Or should they duel at dawn?
On January 22, 2019 at 4:40 pm, Scot A wrote:
Is it time for the US to split? Is it time for a "Brexit" from the left coast and the Northeast? Is there enough time to save this country, I mean we only have 12 years left according to AOC?
On January 22, 2019 at 4:45 pm, Keith wrote:
Be thankful the British political class trying to negate Brexit. I read about another time a group of governments tried to leave a union they voluntarily joined. It was back in the 1860's
On January 22, 2019 at 4:45 pm, Toby Pilling wrote:
In Britain we're suffering a coup against the people by a Remain dominated parliament. What can a freeborn English yeoman do in response?
PS Might it be wise to consider the poem 'The Wrath of the Awakened Saxon' by Rudyard Kipling for 'Tales for our Time'? It has some relevance to Brexit betrayed, methinks.
On January 22, 2019 at 4:46 pm, Karen Marcus wrote:
As an Orthodox Jew, I am very grateful for what President Trump has done for Israel. As the Democrat representatives in Congress are becoming more and more anti-Israel, I find it shocking and disappointing that so many Jews are still Democrat and not openly supportive of the President.
On January 22, 2019 at 4:46 pm, Laura Rosen Cohen wrote:
Hi Mark do you think that the Democratic party will reach a "no go zone" with the antisemitism that is currently infesting it and its organs? Seems like there is a bit of a split in the party but I suspect the progressive antisemites will drag the more traditional Democrats along with them to Jew-hate junction.
On January 22, 2019 at 4:47 pm, John Shuba wrote:
My mother was a staunch Englishwoman as were her siblings and relatives. (All alas gone.) I am sure that they would have been the first ones in the voting booths (or whatever they are using in Britain these days) to vote "YES" on leaving the EU. Given the recent Parliamentary fiasco created by Ms. May (the PM not the Playboy centerfold) is ther any chance of Brexit really happening or will this thing be dragged out ad infinitim until the opposition finall gets a second vote?
On January 22, 2019 at 4:55 pm, George Pazin wrote:
I'm listening live, for the first time. And I'll say, so far this is perhaps the most important q&a yet, with a level of insight that everyone would do well to observe and incorporate into his or her own life.
My question is simply, what will it take for people to wake up? Will they ever?
The situation with the Covington students is one of the most nauseating I've seen, from the Left and the Never Trumpers alike. I still haven't seen anyone in the media who has looked into the past of the "Vietnam time veteran" Nathan Phillips. The absolute abandonment of all intellectual curiosity and integrity from the media is stunning to me. I can't imagine how these bozos sleep at night. I lose sleep when I hurt someone's feelings, or even wonder if they feel hurt, yet these people destroy lives at the drop of a tweet and seemingly never reflect on that. This story, coming immediately on the heels of the fake news from buzzfeed, makes me weep for the future of the world.
On January 22, 2019 at 4:55 pm, Joseph Dornisch wrote:
Uh oh! I just learned that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has predicted the world is gonna end in 12 years due to climate change! She's trying her best to make those IPCC people look like actual scientists...
On January 22, 2019 at 4:55 pm, Michael Cavino wrote:
The meteoric rise of Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez (thanks to the help of a fawning press and powerful websites) seems to me the clearest evidence yet that the Democratic Party is splitting apart more rapidly than our the mainstream political punditry is willing to admit and while they harp on the demise of the Republican Party. I simply do not see how the Dems survive as a party for another ten years.
Would love to hear your thoughts on this, Mark. Thanks!
On January 22, 2019 at 4:57 pm, TimInThePacNW wrote:
The European Court of Human Rights, on October 24, 2018, upheld an Austrian court's conviction of a woman for publicly suggesting that the prophet Muhammad had pedophilic tendencies.
Ireland held a referendum, on October 26, 2018, in which voters repealed the blasphemy offence (by a margin of 64.85% to 35.15%). It was signed into law on 27 November 2018.
What are your thoughts, on the relationship of natural law and sharia law?
Mukilteo, Wash. USA
On January 22, 2019 at 4:57 pm, Mick Wenlock wrote:
Fraternal Comrade Mark!
Whenever I get to listen to one of your excellent un-documented guest host stints on Rush's show I always want to call in to express my irritation about two separate (but equal) inaccuracies that the media are fond of advancing.
When did "Latino/Latina become a race? (La Raza notwithstanding) I am sure that the Iberian peninsula peeps would be surprised to find out that they are not white...
And - when did "Muslim" become a race?
On January 22, 2019 at 4:57 pm, Anthony Sutton wrote:
I'd bet the left will Thumper the Wonder Vet nominated for a Grammy Award.
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